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you may find this answers some of your question? ....

CAG (CONGO) & TAG (TIMNEH) GREYS - Vive la Différence©:

https://www.parrot-link.co.uk/index.php?topic=31552.0

(from the INFORMATION TOPICS© section: https://www.parrot-link.co.uk/forum/22-parrot-link-information-topics/)

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hi I too have a CAG but i think all birds should be taken on their own merit and for what you are looking for in a pet, you will know the right bird for you welcome to birdy madland

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I was talking to a breeder yesterday on this very subject and his opinion was that TAG's are more easily stressed than CAG's I know he is a breeder and I do value their input , but my opinion has always been the other way around I have a TAG and 3 CAG's and my TAG is definately the more outgoing and doesn't get phased as much as the CAG's he is more excepting of change for example ( if I was to move the CAG's cages they would sit and shake in unfamiliar surroundings where as the TAG would except change ) I would also be interested to here others inputs, I think another thing to consider is the fact that baby CAG's are always widely available whereas you don't often come across baby TAG's they seem to be very few and far between or that could be just me not knowing where to look

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Princetaz - your post made me think as I too have always found TAG's to be laid back, fun birds.

Maybe in a breeding situation they are more easily stressed than the CAG's? Could that have been what the person you mention meant as otherwise it seems against everything I've learnt/heard/read?

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I have a rescue TAG, been with us since Sunday. He has been put into a very large cage, all new toys, perches etc, he has been out, had strange people in the room whilst he has been out, and not even ruffled a feather. EVEN stepped up and kissed me yesterday - he was supposed to not be very tame.

My CAG is a funny one, she hates anything new in her cage, this morning I had to remove the 'snuggle hut' that I put in her cage last night as she point blank refused to leave the floor of the cage until it was gone! She will not try anything new straight off (apart from playlinks) and anything new has to be introduced very slowly.

 

So my experience? -

TAGs - very laid back and take change with a pinch of salt

Cags - very highly strung and any change needs introducing slowly

 

BOTH however are wonderful!!! and I wouldn't now be without either of them.

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In their opinion the timneh gets more stressed than the congo and yes they were refering to breeding situations, their example being when approaching breeding congo's they get no reaction whereas approaching breeding timnehs they will scream and get very stressed this is obviously their situation and like they say this may not be the same with all breeders, but they did say they find the babies more difficult to rear than the congo's due to stress. Just as a matter of interest if breeding greys were total growlers and were left to rear their young would the babies turn out to be growlers sorry going of topic but would be interested to know

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I think whether TAG or CAG what plays the most important factor in whether they are laid back or adaptable to change is the socialisation and integration they receive.

 

My CAG's have no issues with change, new toys, meeting people etc because it is a part of their normal routine. I found the same with the TAG's. It usually takes a bit of time with the rescue's but they too learn to chill when they see that the others aren't fazed.

 

You get back what your prepared to put in.

 

In reply to Princetaz from my observations of my breeding birds the babies when removed from the nestbox aged 5-6 weeks from Growlers will growl for the first few days once inside (they do not growl again after this age) when the chicks are removed at the same age from non growlers no growling from the babies was heard at all.

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Thank you for that three ladies I totally agree with the socialisation aspect and the more you put in the more you get out, I have never had a baby grey as such all mine have been rehomes includung the TAG and none have been particularly tame so they have taken a lot of work to socialise them but it has all been worth it, I was likening baby greys to humans in the respect that if you have grumpy stressed parents you get grumpy babies not a very good comparison I know so it is nice to know how they react when taken away from parents

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archie is funny with new toys some times it can take a couple of months before he even goes near them

I know the feeling :lol: Barney finally sat on his new play stand :D/ only had it approx 8 weeks and only sat there about 60 secs, but hey we are getting there, they are funny bless them :lol:

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I've met Lesley's (Threeladdies) CAGs several times now and can confirm they're not in the least bit bothered by visitors! Their aviary has lots of different toys, ropes etc and I know Lesley changes these around on a regular basis. These are her pet CAGs I'm talking about.

 

I've also met one of her breeding pairs and they were equally outgoing. Those breeding pairs are housed in lovely conditions by the way, not like some I've seen on the internet.

 

I wasn't sure what breed to go for but I'd convinced myself a CAG was beyond me! Then I read lots of info about both TAGs and CAGs and made my decision.

 

I'm buying a CAG from Lesley, Mojo will be ready some time in September. I'll be visiting him/her lots more times between now and when I bring him home.

 

Lesley (and her family of three plus Hubby!) spends a huge amount of time ensuring her babies are not scared of anything, including a harness, and she trains them to fly to you on command and to step-up etc.

 

I don't know if you've any breeders in mind but if you do go for a CAG then you won't go wrong buying from Lesley!

 

Photos of Mojo http://www.flickr.com/photos/flipflopip/sets/72157605701628810/detail/.

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My CAG is a nightmare where anything new is concerned, he rarely plays with toys and is scared of most of them, he will not try new things for ages, he hates strangers (but then he hates me too !!) anything new in his cage and he will not go on that side of the cage. Never having had a TAG i cant comment on them sorry.

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Hello and welcome mike777

did you see MMM's work in progress?

AG or Timneh?

https://www.parrot-link.co.uk/index.php?topic=31552.0

 

Also it would be lovely if you would also take into your deliberations... a rehomer, whether from an advert someone who no longer wants what they bought, or bird from a rescue.

While a baby is lovely, there are so many unwanted ones.

Babies go through teenage years, can change, though with love and the right care, they will come through it.

With a second hand bird, you usually get their full character, know what you are dealing with :roll: :lol: to a degree

threeladdies said

You get back what your prepared to put in.

That goes for older birds or babies :)

 

Timnehs are nicer :wink: :)

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Hi Mike, not all rehomes come with baggage all my Greys and the Timneh are rehomes and none of them have issues , they are not always somebody elses problem , family cicumstances change through illness and many other factors in which people find themselves unable to keep their loved pet

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