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Hi! Just introducing myself! My name is Jilly and I am a very new parrot mummy so need all the information I can get! I have just acquired a blue fronted amazon (or so I thought but now I think he might be an orange winged amazon)! Good start hey??! Don't even know what type he is! :wink: :lol: He is 4 years old and lovely! He doesn't talk yet but since he's been here, 2 weeks, he now barks and miaows! :o Bless him! Some questions for you already (sorry)!!

1) How do I tame my parrot so he will sit on my arm? At the moment I can stroke his head but only when he wants to! When I try to put my arm in hr gets cross and either goes to the back of his cage or tries to bite!

2) I read a book on parrot taming but all the techniques are for wing clipped birds. What are your thoughts on wing clipping??? At the moment his wings aren't clipped and he enjoys fly time around the front room! Any ideas?

3) What age do parrots start talking? Our baby boy is 4 years old. He mimics noises but doesn't speak yet. Any ideas on how to encourage him to speak??

 

I think that's all for now but I'm sure I will have some more questions for you soon! Hope you don't mind! Thank you very much!

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Posted Image Jilly to our Parroty Place, have a good look round and feel free to ask any questions you may have. To help you, here is a selection of topics you might like to take a look at.

 

Below is a How To on setting up a photo bucket so you can show us your birds.

 

https://www.parrot-link.co.uk/index.php?topic=4370.0

 

A variety of topics you might find helpful.

 

https://www.parrot-link.co.uk/topic/6216-welcome-info-pack%c2%a9/

 

 

 

https://www.parrot-link.co.uk/forum/22-parrot-link-information-topics/

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Posted Image to the Parroty Place, Jilly. Loads to share, learn and enjoyPosted Image

 

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You'll notice many of us have a photobucket link under our posts - Below is an easy how-to on setting pics and/or vids up to share with us all:

https://www.parrot-link.co.uk/index.php?topic=4370.0

 

Here's our section of Information Topics:

https://www.parrot-link.co.uk/forum/22-parrot-link-information-topics/

 

Also a variety of info topics you may like to wander through:

https://www.parrot-link.co.uk/topic/6216-welcome-info-pack%c2%a9/

 

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Here's a guide to telling OW and BF Amazons apart:

https://www.parrot-link.co.uk/amazone.htm

 

this is worth a read ...

GENTLING .... GETTING A BIRD USED TO YOU:

https://www.parrot-link.co.uk/topic/10512-gentling-getting-a-bird-used-to-you%c2%a9/

which leads on to ...

HELPING BIRDS LEARN TO STEP-UP (ONTO A HAND-HELD STICK):

https://www.parrot-link.co.uk/topic/9636-helping-birds-learn-to-step-up-onto-a-hand-held-stick/

followed by ...

HELPING BIRDS LEARN TO STEP-UP ON HANDS RATHER THAN A STICK:

https://www.parrot-link.co.uk/topic/8021-helping-birds-learn-to-step-up-on-hand-rather-than-a-stick/

 

 

Some parrots never talk but prefer to copy other noises but it is never too late for them to learn if they want to. As an example my 47 year old Amazon learned to say Jo-Jo last year even though she had never heard that name before coming to me 2 years ago and she is not a great talker (Only about 4 words/phrases).

The best method to teach a bird to talk is to repeat the same words ... for instance, "Hello" as you greet the bird, "Grape" when you give one, "Drink" as you see them drinking.

Keep this up, saying the word clearly and with emotion and the bird will learn it if he/she wishes to.

 

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Clipping is a very emotive issue, much more common a practise in the USA than here.

 

For what it's worth here's a cut'n'paste of my own, personal, thought up by myself, opinion on clipping that I posted on a previous thread ....

 

"I've have used a progressive clip (see note of explanation below) as a last resort in curbing attacks by an adult knowing BF Amazon who caused the owner to need stitches frequently.

It worked where all else had failed and allowed the change of dominant order needed to allow this particular bird to stop his flying attacks long enough to learn new ways to cope with his dislikes and learn 'manners'.

 

To use a clip as an easy way to improve/hasten training in a new or non problem bird is, in my eyes, lazy, unnecessary, unkind and trust destroying. Chances are you may well end up with a bird who appears tame - but earning that bird's true trust will be much, much harder.

 

That is just my opinion and based on my experiences and observations - you, of course, will make your own mind up but ask yourself .........

if you're new family robbed you of your power of flight (your only safety mechanism for getting away from people and things you do not yet know let alone trust) would you like/trust/want to get to know them?

 

In general, I consider most clips to be a benefit to the owner and the detriment of the bird.

 

I would never trust even a fully clipped bird outdoors. This is my personal bee-in-bonnet as I KNOW of a bird I considered was cruelly/extremely clipped yet he took off in fright from his owner's shoulder. A bit of a breeze and a big dose of adrenalin and he was off.

 

If clipping is to be done, in my opinion, it must be done only to physically healthy adults and in a progressive and considerate way:

First 2 feathers each side removed (cleanly cut with sharp scissors after making sure it is not a blood/growing feather) and the bird allowed to adjust, then another and more adjustment time and then (if really needed) another. Flight can be tested during this to guesstimate (and it is a guess as you can't judge what power of flight they'll have in a panic) how much uplift the parrot can get.

 

A too severe too quick clip is CRUEL.

 

Clipping one side only is DANGEROUS as the poor bird has no balance.

 

Clipping to leave the 2 outmost feathers is an ACCIDENT waiting to happen as they are easily damaged and/or trapped in cage bars especially if the feathers that are clipped are cut more than a little short.

This type of clip is often said to be done for "Cosmetic" reasons ... translates in my mind as "So the owner won't feel too bad and the bird is still good to look at" but does offer the advantage of giving some protection to newly growing blood feathers.

 

A clip needs constant observation and maintenance as just one or two newly grown-in feathers can enable almost full flight again.

 

No bird that has EVER plucked or feather chewed should be clipped under ANY circumstances.

 

No bird should be clipped until adult enough to have mastered the art of flying, turning and landing.

 

Clipping baby/young birds can permanently affect their health as an adult, rob them of balance, mean that they never fully develop the necessary chest muscles and, even if they are allowed regrowth later, will perhaps be unable to fully rebuild these and/or learn flying skills.

 

Clipped birds need their owners to ensure that they 'fly' and keep their muscles well formed ... either by dipping a bird on your hand or running around to encourage flapping etc.

 

Here's some clipping threads which show what an emotive subject this is:

https://www.parrot-link.co.uk/topic/5711-no-subject/

 

(A progressive clip takes a little off a few feathers, allows a time of adjustment, and only then clips gradually more feathers and allows adjustment between each stage ...... to produce the result of a bird who can glide to a safe landing but not fly upwards indoors to launch an attack.

It is a kinder method than the cutting off of a huge portion of the wings in one go - the trauma of which has triggered plucking in more than a few cases and/or serious injuries as the bird crashes to the floor not knowing it can no longer fly)

 

Small birds like Cockatiels would need ALL of their wing feathers butchered to prevent them flying and I would never under any circumstances recommend it on these little birds".

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Thank you all for your lovely welcome! I'm gonna find this site really useful!

I've just remembered my other question now from reading this quote from MadMudMob that I just read....

"No bird that has EVER plucked or feather chewed should be clipped under ANY circumstances".

 

Two homes before he came to me Ammi lived with a couple who also had an African Grey. They didn't like each other and Ammi started feather plucking. When I first got him his back was completely bald but now he is already starting to grow feathers back! :D He has all these little green spikes coming through, which looks really strange! It's good, though, for him...it's just makes me feel a bit squeamish 'cos it looks like it hurts him! :? So my other question....how long does it take for feathers to grow back? Is there anything I can do to promote feather growth and deter him from plucking them out again?

Thanks MadMudMob that's sorted one query...I will definitely NOT be clipping his feathers! I thought it seemed cruel when I was reading it but, having not had a parrot before, I wasn't sure if it was the right thing to do. Now you mention it the book I was reading about this in is from the USA.

Thank you guys...I need to read links on taming him now! :D

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Regular sprays with warm water will help to calm down any irritated skin whilst growing new feathers. Sounds like you are doing a great job with this birdie in no time at all you'll be leaning us stuff :D

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Welcome from one new Amazon mummy to another! Mango is also 4 years old, she's had four homes already but I'm determined this will be her last :D Stick around here and read lots of posts, I've spent hours here in the last few weeks! :lol: God luck with your boy!

Georgia and Mango XX

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