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  1. Cant believe but I still don't have an aviary, no one has the mesh needed. Of course I've compromised on everything but they still dont have the right size. Maybe Im adhering too strongly to the general advice out there. I mean is it Ok if the bird can stick its head through the mesh, I know this sounds dangerous but do they do that and do they strangle themselves like cautioned? Meantime I've bought some lovely love birds that are living in smaller cages. They are doing well but would love an aviary. One pair had chicks and they are a goreous color, pallid hen and a green wild colour cock (obviously split to something) the babies are bright yellow green completley with yellow heads one is the brightest emerald green too like I've never seen before almost like a jardines parrot. It was very unexpected and exiting this whole thing though I wasnt banking on four more lovebirds not at this stage.
  2. I mostly agree with Greg here. He makes the most sense. I would like to add that as almost every species of parrot is or will be under threat that genetically pure birds are vital, in zoos or at home. Colour mutations are fine as long as the vigour is not compromised in the process, after all we are all mutations of one kind or another. I think albinism is the worst kind of mutation simply because this mutation carries the least possibility of survival in the real world. To be honest I think parrots should not be kept as pets unless they can breed happily in confinement, and even then should be allowed full use of the wings theyre born with. To me and a bird I suspect a small silver barred cage is an anathema. Free flying birds are acceptable but rarely offered as pets. If the bird wants to be with you it will fly home if not end of story.
  3. Okey here yes there is no such thing as a starter parrot, dog, cat or mouse. Each is a living breathing entity that requires the same mount of attention as any other living breathing thing including your children. If you want a bird to enhance your lives I suggest a chicken. It might even lay an egg for you to eat. This is to say by the sounds if things that any bird will throw you in at the deep end even a quail. I think a cockatiel is too advanced for you. Seriously. Try a chicken they are adorable (try Thai bantams) and you and your family will benifit hugely. You mostly and they will learn how to look after her, what is the best conditions for her and plus plus plus you can roast her after all is done and enjoy a nice Sunday dinner. If there is one of you in the family that truly loves animals and wants a feathered friend after the chicken experience then I suggest a budgy. He/she will be delighted.
  4. ok i get it please if at all possible dont hand rear parrots?
  5. So the danger is only a matter of a few days when their eyes open. So maybe the capes in this instance have imprinted on teaspoons, as they feed them screened. Poor bird one might wonder, but then with all the adults present would they assume the spoon was one of their own kind? Anyway using grey necks to raise them after the critical stage seems to work fine, so I suppose they get that full experience of being parrot raised. Its interesting cause they go on to say using completely wild parrots to raise their own chicks is a bit disastrous, as the chicks are very flighty and will fly straight into mesh at high speed when they try and fledge or anyone approaches. Rather risky for an endangered species. I suppose one cant generalise about all the species, but I can see where just on a management level habituated would be best. I wonder how its achieved, introduce human element week or so after the eyes pop open?
  6. Makes you wonder how many unsuspecting people end up with wild smuggled birds. Shouldnt there be a registery for all parrots in each country? I mean how to control? Ultimately where do completley wild birds go and how long do they survive. Then of course there is the problem of disease in the whole scenario. It astounds me how this trade so easily continues around the world. These Moustached Parakeets thrive on various islands and a few ferral populations however the nominate species is almost extinct on Java already. As far as I can work out they arent scarse in the West either. So maybe places like India etc dont breed just buy wild ones not even knowing what they are doing?
  7. Thanks for that. The breeder of the capes seem to use the same tactic but without hiding the hands, maybe they let the chicks see adults when they first open their eyes. He implied habituated to humans but not imprinted. Further he doesnt speak to them or play with them. Sounds strange but he gets healthy breeders this way. I have seen how the condors are raized with the puppet head of an adult. I think its marvelouse though that the Cape breeder keeps adults in very close proximity, this way the chicks can hear see smell and interact with their own species inbetween being fed.
  8. 166 wild parrots seized. Any idea where this is in India ? And what kind of ring neck. A bigger picture can be found at the link. http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=182256
  9. That is hand raising with minimal interaction, they do this with many endangered species. The chicks get used to humans but don't imprint on them. Adults of the same species are kept close so the chicks imprint on them instead of the keeper who just feeds them? Have I got this right? Habituated to humans but not imprinted on them right Greg? So I myself dont want a pet parrot, but having things done this way is good for breeding and managment, but the parrot wont actualy be tame just relaxed around humans. For people who want a companion bird is this enough to get on with? So parrot wont have all the antisocial behaviours etc but learn trust etc as an adult relatively relaxed round humans? When time comes for mating which I suppose every bird is entitled to it will look beyond its keeper (which it wont consider a mate) to other parrots. Could Filigrees Bird be getting huffed that there is no mate for her? Frustrated that the Africn grey is not near? Is reproduction or sex if you like a basic parrot right?
  10. David this might well have been the original intention for getting 'robustus re-classified, even though DNA seems to have rather proved the point. There is only one parrot indigenous to South Africa, even then its distribution is not restricted to the Cape which is just a province. The differences as you go up through Africa in these parrots is quite plain. Robustus 'cape is rather isolated from the range of other Poicephalus. This is an excellent article, I now understand the difference between hand raised and human imprinted. As Greg was saying, and how that impacts on breeding, habituated to humans rather than imprinted on humans. And keeping chicks close to adults. They will apparently even breed happily in a community setting! http://www.theparrotsocietyuk.org/index.php/Article_10/80
  11. Its definitely a she given her age, bought as a he just took awhile to try and identify whether she really was a she, and species identification. P robusta the Cape Parrot apparently never gets aggressive like that according to the few sources of info out there.
  12. David I was reading the Web site of the only breeder of true Cape parrot "robusta" (all others are not considered Capes as they dont come from that region at all) and he was saying he had no problem breeding from hand reared birds at all, ie they breed and reproduce as well as others. He did mention that hand reared males get defensive about the hen and brood. Also the male Capes do something interesting. They lift the neck and head as high as they can then slam down the top of the beak with a whack on the perch to scare intruders away. He is of course involved in the very urgent conservation of the species so has had to use birds where ever he could find them as long as they were healthy hand reared and fed wild birds from accidents tame pet birds etc. The other interesting thing he mentions is that as they are very sociable birds they like to be around one another all the time so his cages are suitably arranged for this, the juveniles placed next to breeding pairs etc. Getting a flock atmosphere going. http://www.amazona.co.za/research/cape.htm Then the remarkable fact that grey necked Poicephalus will readily adopt Capes as chicks and rear them up along with their own chicks. The Gentle giant as so often talked about sounds true. Except for Filligrees experience of course but then she isn't a Cape but one would think much the same, I wonder if she isn't just pining for her friend. Couldn't the grey be constantly near her, interact and playing. Im not sure about how the other Poicephalus beside the grey necked and Cape behave (W Horsfield) regarding breeding after being hand reared I would've thought the same. It would indeed be interesting to hear from John Mackay to compare their experiences, but according to William Horsfield the other Poicephalus beside the grey and Cape do have very noticeably different mannerisms and ways of doing things.
  13. Which ever you got they are all lovely birds. But far as I know no Cape parrots "robusta" are breed in the UK. Thats not to say the others arent also extremely rare but I dont know. If you want a nother one why not go back to the same breeder for advice. As yours is a female she is probably feeling broody hence her naughtiness. Hand reared Poicephalus are know to take to breeding very easily.
  14. Filigree&Lace, I cant tell to be honest, it certainly isnt a grey, so i think I would lean towards a browned necked POICEPHALUS fUSCICOLLIS fUSCICOLLIS. How much did you pay for him if I may ask. To be sure you would need a dna test.
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