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Pottys Mum Ace Ventura Admin

Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 13059 Location: Nr. Soggy Southampton, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Poor old boy. So sorry to hear about Henry but hope he's back as right as rain in double quick time.
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Tory

Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 1040 Location: Surrey
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Ouch, so sorry to hear about henry too, I hope he heals quickly! I've met a couple of birds with damaged upper mandibals, the beak should still grow but you might find it will grow misformed ;o(. Even if it doesn't grow back properly it's amazing how birds can still manage to cope and eat ok.
Fingers crossed all will be ok! _________________
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| poor boy. i hope you had a hot sweet tea for your shock too xxxxx sending you both hugs xxxxxx |
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LC

Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 484 Location: West Sussex, UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Oh Pip, I hope you are both feeling a bit better today. x _________________ Lorna
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jebirds Site Admin

Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 3409 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Poor Henry,
Try not to give pain killers as the pain is there to stop him using the beck until the new membrane has grown over any 'open" areas of the beck to stop infection etc,
Hand feed him soft food like feast from the birdcare company to keep his strength up and to prevent him trying to eat seed too soon.
I have birds here that have lost top or bottom beck's completely and they cope very well (even eating seed) Henrys beck should re-grow stronger than before (as it will be nice new undamaged beck).
If you look at my picture of chewy he lost the whole side of his beck completely and it has re-grown nice and strong.
I would give him cage rest for a week or so because the pain will stop as soon as the membrane has grown which is quite quick and then he will be trying to chew seed, wood etc and slow the healing down.
It's a wonder that these parrots dont give us a heart attack sometimes. _________________ http://s343.photobucket.com/albums/o464/parrotcareinfo/
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kthornton

Joined: 05 May 2009 Posts: 610 Location: Mildenhall, Suffolk
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Omg Pip i'm sorry to hear about poor Henry, i'm sure he'll be fine, he has adapted to his beak deformity, this is just a new one. Sending hugs and get well soon vibes for Henry  _________________ Kathryn x
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rubytoo
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 4109
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Poor Henry, very best wishes that he feels better soon.
And your nerves have recovered.
That is a really good point that Jebirds made about pain relief...I have wondered about that at times, that if they (or anyone) with pain killers can't feel the pain, so may do more damage.. I guess it depends on each individual situation, but a good point to ask the vet now you all have your wits about you today. _________________ I'll Rise.....But I won't shine..... |
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jebirds Site Admin

Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 3409 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Ruby,
I give pain relief if the bird is in shock and/or when the injury is done to allow the bird to settle and relax, but not after, this helps to keep the bird quite which allows a fast healing time.
I would add that on beck injuries ( that are more than the tip coming off) I do spray the wound twice a day with F10sc to stop any fugal problems. _________________ http://s343.photobucket.com/albums/o464/parrotcareinfo/
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I shall always believe in all that is good and deserving in birds.
I shall plead for their lives, campaign for their safety,
and uphold their right to a natural death.
I shall seek out the injured and the maimed,
the unloved and the abandoned, and tend to them until their last days. |
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kirstin
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Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Posts: 481 Location: Malvern aka the twilight zone
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kleopatra

Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 2658 Location: Cambs/Northants
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Pippy i know just how you feel... one of my wild Greys broke a chunk off his beak last week, late at night, so i couldn't even find a vet to get him to. Infact the broken bit was still attached and twisted, he was bleeding all over the place and every time i stopped the bleeding he would touch it and get it going again. The only thin he ate for the next few days was sweetcorn. He is back to normal now, but he never screached with pain. Poor Henry must have been in more pain. _________________ http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h290/kleopatra2222/ |
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Pippy
Joined: 30 Mar 2008 Posts: 4078 Location: In my pig sty!
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you so, so much for all your comments and advice!
I've uploaded a couple of pics of Henry, taken just now. It's the first three pics HERE and you can click on them to enlarge them.
Henry has been climbing in the travel cage today so I've now put him back in his own cage. I've covered him over in case he just wants to rest.
He is definitely reluctant to eat, he's just played with bits of mashed grape, banana and mashed sweet potato but I'm not sure how much he's actually eaten
June, is there any chance you could post a small amount of that food you recommended if you have any spare? Just to last until I get some delivered? I would of course pay you for it! Is there anything you can think of that I can offer him in the meantime other than those soft foods I mentioned? Baby food perhaps?
I've got some F10 so will spray some on his beak...once a day??
Glad you mentioned about the pain relief, I was wondering why he didn't give any for me to administer at home.
Neil, Henry not stepping-up isn't a problem as such, he will step onto the table top playstand if I offer it to him. Needless to say I won't be using the cage door again.
kleo, Henry's beak was twisted slightly too, I could see immediately that as well as cracking it he'd also twisted it.
There are no sounds coming form his cage so he's obviously settled down ok. |
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kirstin
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Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Posts: 481 Location: Malvern aka the twilight zone
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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hi pippy poor henry but he is still a handsome fella hope he recovers quickly
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Pippy
Joined: 30 Mar 2008 Posts: 4078 Location: In my pig sty!
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Funnily enough Kirstin, his beak actually looks slightly less odd now that there isn't the long, thin end to it!
Sorry June, just read your post again and you did say twice a day for the F10! |
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Net

Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 4504 Location: Rotherham-ish
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Have you got any Ready Brek Pip? That would be OK till you get some of the other stuff. Or maybe some pureed fruit or veggies?
How are you feeling today? _________________
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caron-j

Joined: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 1140 Location: north-east
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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He certainly still looks bright eyed after his traumas bless him and will probably feel a bit more settled in the familiar surroundings of his own cage I expect.
Mango, my Senegal had a badly damaged top beak in a similar area and it took quite while, but did regenerate and grow back very well. _________________ http://s306.photobucket.com/albums/nn262/caron017/ |
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Pippy
Joined: 30 Mar 2008 Posts: 4078 Location: In my pig sty!
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Net wrote: | Have you got any Ready Brek Pip? That would be OK till you get some of the other stuff. Or maybe some pureed fruit or veggies?
How are you feeling today? |
I'll get some Ready Brek when I go back out to work Net, thank you! I did mash the fruit and veg but maybe puréeing them would be better.
It's difficult to work out whether he's reluctant to eat because it hurts or just because his beak feels odd to him. As he's climbed the bars of the travel cage and not cried out that would suggest he isn't in too much pain.
I feel much happier today knowing the damaged section of beak is gone so can't cause Henry further pain but am still concerned he may knock it against something. He hasn't so far though and there's absolutely no sign of blood or anything else coming from the end of the beak. |
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Pippy
Joined: 30 Mar 2008 Posts: 4078 Location: In my pig sty!
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| caron-j wrote: | He certainly still looks bright eyed after his traumas bless him and will probably feel a bit more settled in the familiar surroundings of his own cage I expect.
Mango, my Senegal had a badly damaged top beak in a similar area and it took quite while, but did regenerate and grow back very well. |
It really is a relatively common occurrence then!  |
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Titchy's Crew

Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 142 Location: York, UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Get well soon Henry!
Hope you're ok too Pip.. nothing worse than seeing blood. _________________ I may not have the key to success, but I know how to pick the lock on the door. |
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Gem Guest
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Would he eat kaytee handrearing formula? |
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Pippy
Joined: 30 Mar 2008 Posts: 4078 Location: In my pig sty!
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Titchy's Crew wrote: | Get well soon Henry!
Hope you're ok too Pip.. nothing worse than seeing blood. |
Thanks Titch! Eww it was awful, dark red and so much of it
Gem, where would I be able to buy some of that at short notice, any ideas? Is it sold in pet shops (I've got PAH and Pampurred Pets in my area)? Do most parrots like it?
I'm willing to try anything as I'd hate to think Henry is going to recover from the broken beak only to go into a decline through lack of food  |
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